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S04EP04 | Culture Eats Security for Breakfast | Jay Thoden van Velzen

Neelu Tripathy Season 4 Episode 4

Guest: Jay Thoden van Velzen
Technical Advisor, Office of the Chief Security Officer
SAP Global Security & Cloud Compliance


In this segment, we’re unpacking the biggest myth in security: that strategy is enough. Our guest argues that culture eats strategy for breakfast, and effective security isn’t about more policies, but about deep negotiation and understanding. We’ll discuss how to use tools like security risk management and security engineering not as blockers, but as instruments for genuine collaboration. This is about convincing teams we understand their needs, and together, building a security culture where everyone wins. This is how we move from being a cost center to a true business partner.

Recommended reading/viewing, Paper(in this topic) for practitioners

  • Security Chaos Engineering: Sustaining Resilience in Software and Systems, Kelly Shortridge and Aaron Rinehart (2023)
  • Cybersecurity for SAP, Gaurav Singh and Juan Perez-Etchegoyen (2025)

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